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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 20 @ 2:44 PM ET
Eklund: Rumors> NYR Inquired about Hall for Mark Staal plus conditional pick + more
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 20 @ 2:45 PM ET
Edmonton doesn't need a pending UFA IMO, they need young talented players if Hall is in the picture.
conkey
Location: except it, NS
Joined: 09.06.2011

Dec 20 @ 2:47 PM ET
Edmonton doesn't need a pending UFA IMO, they need young talented players if Hall is in the picture.
- LeftCoaster

careful
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 20 @ 2:47 PM ET
Horrific trade for Edmonton.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 20 @ 2:48 PM ET
I find that hard to believe because:
A) Staal is a pending UFA, and while you did mention there is a conditional pick based on whether Staal re-signs or not, I doubt EDM would deal Hall for most likely a 2 month rental and a mid to late 1st (hopefully), a 2nd, and another roster player
B) The Rangers are stacked on the wing with Nash, MSL, Zuccarello, Kreider, Duclair, Buchnevich, Haggerty all possessing top-6 ability and guys like Hagelin and Fast and Glass locking up spots in the bottom 6
C) The Rangers forfeit any chance they have at contending for a Cup this year by moving Staal
D) The Rangers are pretty thin in terms of defensive prospects outside of Skjei

I would think that if a deal were to happen, it would be centered around Skjei and Kreider. EDM gets a big, fast winger that can step into the top-6 to replace Hall immediately and get one of the top young defensive prospects in the game who projects to be a shutdown top pairing guy.
Dgmilazz
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.30.2013

Dec 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
I find that hard to believe because:
A) Staal is a pending UFA, and while you did mention there is a conditional pick based on whether Staal re-signs or not, I doubt EDM would deal Hall for most likely a 2 month rental and a mid to late 1st (hopefully), a 2nd, and another roster player
B) The Rangers are stacked on the wing with Nash, MSL, Zuccarello, Kreider, Duclair, Buchnevich, Haggerty all possessing top-6 ability and guys like Hagelin and Fast and Glass locking up spots in the bottom 6
C) The Rangers forfeit any chance they have at contending for a Cup this year by moving Staal
D) The Rangers are pretty thin in terms of defensive prospects outside of Skjei

I would think that if a deal were to happen, it would be centered around Skjei and Kreider. EDM gets a big, fast winger that can step into the top-6 to replace Hall immediately and get one of the top young defensive prospects in the game who projects to be a shutdown top pairing guy.

- rangerdanger94

Horrible trade for the oilers and although it would be an amazing trade for the Rangers, it is a marginal upgrade. Nash and Hall together would be franking scary though. This is complete BS as always...
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
Horrible trade for the oilers and although it would be an amazing trade for the Rangers, it is a marginal upgrade. Nash and Hall together would be franking scary though. This is complete BS as always...
- Dgmilazz

Amazing trade for the Rangers? By giving up one of our best defenders? Do you not remember how terrible the Islanders were for close to a decade because they had all offense and no defense?
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
Eklund: Rumors> NYR Inquired about Hall for Mark Staal plus conditional pick + more
- Eklund

The rangers don't have a first round pick this year.

A pending UFA and a first in 2016? That's a complete nonstarter. Come on.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
The rangers don't have a first round pick this year.

A pending UFA and a first in 2016? That's a complete nonstarter. Come on.

- ghostofRC

Kreider + Hagelin + Skjei + 2016 1st for Hall

Let's do it. Right now.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Dec 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
solid offer
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Kreider + Hagelin + Skjei + 2016 1st for Hall

Let's do it. Right now.

- rangerdanger94

Mcdonagh and staal for Nikitin and Shultz. Let's do it. Now.


This is fun
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Mcdonagh and staal for Nikitin and Shultz. Let's do it. Now.


This is fun

- ghostofRC

I thought my offer was pretty fair.
QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Dec 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Listen up closely. Hall may be a whiny no heart no character player that I'd never want in my dressing room. However you can't deny that he has skill and he's young so he will get a high return. Everybody talks about Oilers Management being pathetic and a joke because they don't have defense. Can you imagine they trade their biggest asset for a defenseman and he leaves in the summer? C'mon now. He already had his hurricane sweater.

Wait! It's a conspiracy. Staal will go to Edmonton and provide "defense" and win games, pulling them ahead of the hurricanes allowing them to draft macdavid. Then Staal leaves to play with his brothers and macdavid in Carolina. Win win
chriscmc
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.02.2014

Dec 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
I find that hard to believe because:
A) Staal is a pending UFA, and while you did mention there is a conditional pick based on whether Staal re-signs or not, I doubt EDM would deal Hall for most likely a 2 month rental and a mid to late 1st (hopefully), a 2nd, and another roster player
B) The Rangers are stacked on the wing with Nash, MSL, Zuccarello, Kreider, Duclair, Buchnevich, Haggerty all possessing top-6 ability and guys like Hagelin and Fast and Glass locking up spots in the bottom 6
C) The Rangers forfeit any chance they have at contending for a Cup this year by moving Staal
D) The Rangers are pretty thin in terms of defensive prospects outside of Skjei

I would think that if a deal were to happen, it would be centered around Skjei and Kreider. EDM gets a big, fast winger that can step into the top-6 to replace Hall immediately and get one of the top young defensive prospects in the game who projects to be a shutdown top pairing guy.

- rangerdanger94


I agree none of it makes sense that trade would leave the oilers in an even worse spot then they currently are. Staal would leave at the end of the season and they'd be without a franchise player in hall. Also the oilers need a center they'd be asking for Stepan with Staal not kreider. Which isn't happening as the rangers aren't deep at center.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 20 @ 3:02 PM ET
I thought my offer was pretty fair.
- rangerdanger94

Yeah it really addresses Edmonton's needs.
Skinnyjimmy08
Joined: 06.06.2013

Dec 20 @ 3:03 PM ET
Edmonton doesn't need a pending UFA IMO, they need young talented players if Hall is in the picture.
- LeftCoaster


haha no they don't... they need quality NHL players that have been in the league for some years... young talented players got them in this mess!!!... don't ruin anymore young players by having them on the Oilers
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
Yeah it really addresses Edmonton's needs.
- ghostofRC

Depth, size, a two-way forward, a future top pairing defenseman, and a 1st round pick to add more depth. Yea, I'd say it does a nice job.
Skinnyjimmy08
Joined: 06.06.2013

Dec 20 @ 3:08 PM ET
Kreider + Hagelin + Skjei + 2016 1st for Hall

Let's do it. Right now.

- rangerdanger94


WAY too much to give up for Hall in my opinion
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 20 @ 3:08 PM ET
Depth, size, a two-way forward, a future top pairing defenseman, and a 1st round pick to add more depth. Yea, I'd say it does a nice job.
- rangerdanger94



Not even close. Not surprised. You have a habit of over stating your scraps you are trying to pawn off. Much like Pens and Leafs fans.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
WAY too much to give up for Hall in my opinion
- Skinnyjimmy08

Apparently it's not even close
Skinnyjimmy08
Joined: 06.06.2013

Dec 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
what are trade ideas that Oiler fans would like?... I wanna see if Oiler fans are more reasonable on this site. Every other site has the most absurd ideas for offers ever.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 20 @ 3:10 PM ET


Not even close. Not surprised. You have a habit of over stating your scraps you are trying to pawn off. Much like Pens and Leafs fans.

- ghostofRC

2 quality NHL players, our best prospect, and a 1st round pick are scraps?
QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Dec 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
Kreider + Hagelin + Skjei + 2016 1st for Hall

Let's do it. Right now.

- rangerdanger94


Yeah let's trade a star talent for 3rd rounders a mid talent prospect and a 15th overall pick in a poopty draft. Freakin rag fans

While not just go for Chris Neil and Colin greening in Ottawa

And BtW, didn't you guys learn in the QUICK SCF that character wins championships? Hall has no character. Why do you want him anyways. You'd be better off keeping Kreider and knocking out all the starting goalies on the way to the finals. Tokarski, emery and fleury lol
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Dec 20 @ 3:11 PM ET


Not even close. Not surprised. You have a habit of over stating your scraps you are trying to pawn off. Much like Pens and Leafs fans.

- ghostofRC



Two roster players, a prospect, and a 1st..it's not that bad.

Though you want that 1st to be '15 and he's overselling Brady big time... Hagelin is worthless in EDM though.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
2 quality NHL players, our best prospect, and a 1st round pick are scraps?
- rangerdanger94

Bottom line:

Hall is not getting traded.

If he or Eberle was the oilers get one of the following back:

1. A top pair defensemen. Today. Not some prospect maybe one day if the stars align will be a top pair guy. We have those.

2. A top 6 center. Again. Today.

3. A starting goaltender.


Any of these other rumours are pathetic attempts.
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